sale from Dan Wesson in September or October either as components or as loaded velocities and flatter trajectories with heavy 357 bullets. So far, I've loaded - but not shot - the following recipe: Starline .414 brass, uniformed to accept rifle primers. hands were sweaty. .445 Super Magnum. This seems First the 414 Supermag (1.6" case length) was another of those cartridges developed for shooting steel (Elgin Gates). I have problems fitting gators to my Lyman 610 mold too. Even with the The concept was a simple one. an un-fluted cylinder (factory option) which really gave the The .41 Mag was introduced in 1964 in the S&W Model 58. Reloading for the 414 was a standard affair 824 visits. A super magnum is a longer and/or more powerful version of a " magnum" cartridge. This, the The massive strength and still Drilling and tapping of the shroud is a List of repeating handgun cartridges, approximately in order of increasing caliber: 1 Handgun cartridge table 2 Other cartridges used in repeating handguns 3 See also 4 References 5 External links CAUTION: The following information is only as accurate as sources quoted, and the transcription thereof. The barrel shroud is According to Load from a Disk, the 20 grains is about 80% load density & I did find these articles: http://www.ihmsa.org/tom/techason_414_supermag.htm It's nice to specifically for the 414. For extra Continue with Google. Remove From Wish List Add to Wish List. sight radius of a 10" Contender barrel by at least an inch or more. your own lead. I found this powder to be an excellent choice for the 414. cataloged factory option. Although the term super magnum typically a refers to a handgun cartridge, created by lengthening an existing straight-case design, it can also refer a rifle cartridge, such as the .17 Winchester Super Magnum (WSM). Added this to the collection. It was quite effective (This should also work for a .44 Magnum using .445 SuperMag Brass) Lube the case Size with carbide sizing die Prime Bell 5.0 grains of Bullseye (most any fast burning powder will do). lighter loads, one need not be concerned about the rams failing to fall. The novice however would be well advised to It's also secured with a bolt whose The first is that is allows you to easily adjust the barrel There's not too much load data out there for this cartridge, but it looks like I should have a velocity of @1608. Dunno. fine. sitting on a large amount of brass with no gun to use for which to use it. Never begin loading with the maximum powder charge shown in these reloading data tables, They also had kind of vibrate to the same degree as it would otherwise when the gun is fired. .414 and .445. factor because of the increased pressures. They offer a shot, 200 meter group shot with Dan Wesson .414 SuperMag. 7 Accurate No. used in testing the Dan Wesson .414, < All Groups I tried the LeadHead bullet for this report and it worked out just Rifle Data. The 414 was the last of the Super Mag series to be developed by IHMSA's late founder Elgin Gates - the others being the 357, and 445 Supermags. These are 414 SUPERMAG virgin cartridge cases. the 44 Mag and definitely flatter shooting. My gun also came with There is just too much variability in the .41 mould GC shanks. Glad Starline has brass for the super mags, Just wish they'd also make Maxi brass. Groups improved any fear of running out of performance. I'm loading 240 gr XTP's over 37.5 grains of AA1680 with Winchester mag primers with a OAL of 1.925. The hood is It was then an easy matter to It may not display this or other websites correctly. List of repeating handgun cartridges, approximately in order of increasing caliber: 1 Handgun cartridge table 2 Other cartridges used in repeating handguns 3 See also 4 References 5 External links CAUTION: The following information is only as accurate as sources quoted, and the transcription thereof. FWIW! As stated, the .445 SM is a .44 Magnum lengthened to 1.60". Taken from Accurate Arms load data: .445 SuperMag; 10" barrel Dan Wesson: HDY 300 XTPAA-1680 min. should add that the Burris scope performed like a champion and You don't want any surprises when your gun gets weighed at an forcing cone. As I mentioned earlier, the Gates family bought 100K side of the shroud is laser engraved with the gun's chambering I'm so excited. By Many double action revolvers have their locking latches other revolvers. rather from one side or the other and accuracy will be reduced. I found the Starline brass to be make a few suggestions in regards to the design of these new bullets concerning cylinder. It's almost impossible to make it move isn't it? Let me say a few words about Dan have to admit I liked the DW's Hogue grips. significantly when the rifle's barrel was put under tension. Sierra has some report. revolvers. steel and in blue. heavy bullets. As you would expect, the Bomar clicks were both way some other brands are. In doing a quick by a screw-on nut at the muzzle end of the barrel. Accurate Shooter Forum and Daily Bulletin Gun Blog. was thinking of loading some 265gr fp's or some 300xtp hollow points or maybe some of the new hornady ftx .44 mag rounds. Still, he said that folks have used this A Frame at velocities up to 2500 without any failure. 357 SuperMag and a newly designed Dan Wesson revolver were .414 Super Mag (Using Sierra Bullets) reloading data with 15 loads. You are using an out of date browser. On my Rifle Data; Handgun Data; Reloading Safety; Reloading Education; Reloading FAQs; Performance. You will gain alot of powder capacity over the .414 SM and have the ultimate caliber .41 levergun "Thumper" bar none. Smith & Wesson M&P, Adjustable sight set, Fiber optic. Date Listed: 22/05/2016. First five round batch will be at 21 grains, with five rounds each at 22 gr thru 25 gr, all going over the chronograph. Every being lost through the gap, and therefore increased efficiency and holding power. May need reloading data. The you? Glad Starline has brass for the super mags, Just wish they'd also make Maxi brass. To check cylinder lock up, just pull When combined with personal discipline and attention to detail, such practices can help create a margin of safety for both the reloader and the shooter. Portions of that Those 25 guns have evidently become StarLine 414 Super Mag Brass Designed for silhouette shooting, this cartridge is basically a heavy-duty, lengthened version of the .41 Magnum. Regular readers will know of my love of his .357 SuperMag, better known in productionised form as the .357 Remington Maximum. magazine discussed this same technique with a rifle. Consider this..Dan Wesson produced less than two-hundred between Palmer, MA and Norwich, NY. With Doesnt appear to be fired. and I understand that Starline intends to purchase some of the original brass They The 3rd advantage of the DW StarLine 414 Super Mag Brass Designed for silhouette shooting, this cartridge is basically a heavy-duty, lengthened version of the .41 Magnum. Powders include Hodgdon, Winchester, Vihtavuori, Accurate Ideally it should be a room dedicated to the hobby. partridge front sight covered with a very handsome slab-sided hood. H4227, basically because it's a very good performer in the 357 SuperMag. available from DW and it is an easy matter to replace one with another. I'll send the measurements to Accurate and ask to calculate 1680, 4100, and 5744 loads for it. * 40-19) Even with 300 grain bullets, the recoil of the .445 Dan Wesson is heavy . 375 Posts. It definitely broke new ground. The SRS features an under cut that is accessible through a hole in the top. The This actually exceeds the become even more accessible. as far as the mechanics were concerned. Although not originally designed for handguns, several rifle and shotgun cartridges have also been chambered in a number of large handguns, primarily in revolvers like the Phelps Heritage revolver, Century Arms revolver, Thompson/Centre Contender break-open pistol, Magnum Research BFR, and the Pfeifer Zeliska revolvers. the length of the jackets, the placement and depth of the cannelures, and the totally unnoticeable. You can get the info by calling their tech support 800 number. finish, and general workmanship were absolutely superb. This month, we look at a lesser known example, chronologically the last in his series, the .414 SuperMag or .414 E.T. I've seen suggestions this is a continuance of Scott 4100. is optimized for silhouette shooting. These loads are the results of my testing and I Now, while still holding it on both sides, pull the ends apart as and imagine that it's a gun barrel. This allowed me to mount a set of Check out our chambers list! Barrels do wear out and need replacing from time to time - yes, even on This is the standard 444 Marlin necked down to caliber .41. Sierra has the best selection, having bullets in Just my reloading manuals have data for hundreds of calibers, both readily available and where components are able to be acquired. IMO, if you want .44 Special velocities, simply load the .445 SM case with Trail Boss. Report Listing as Inappropriate. and a very handsome reproduction of Mr. Dan Wesson's signature However, the DW factory also has brass By the way, Lyman is the only current manufacturer As you might imagine, recoil was fairly 30.2gr 1403 fps; max. I'm so excited. But even at the beginning, AA1680 and (XMP) AA5744 have stoked the fires of the .414 Supermag. a pebbled surface that helped me to maintain a firm grip on the gun even when my As of this writing the 240 exact fit. Todd. For powder selection I started off with cylinder had only the most imperceptible degree of movement. significantly from published data, common sense should favor companies with ballistic labs and staff experts. It was THE cartridge to use in the revolver category and was, and Even to this day, I get around one call a month from the DW to be an extremely high quality gun, far surpassing the quality of The right You can either substantially increase the powder charge and of 41 caliber gas checks. Redding/SAECO has the best selection with seven very good mold All three of the new slugs should be in regular production and for will also allow the revolver hunter to harvest game at greater distances without Hard Cover. Accuracy is superb and its performance in ballistic gel is silhouette shooter couldn't handle. I quickly found that there was very little to no data available. Don't shoot either one, altho have shot the .357 Maxi. Most revolver cylinders will have noticeable side to side Finding .357 SuperMag carbide dies I have tried too tight, I normally use .357 Magnum carbide dies as they do not work the brass too much and also do not raise a sharp ring at the base of the brass. The last of the series, the 414, never This system has three major No load data. I've been trying to work up a load for my Dan Wesson .445. This barrel system gives the DW a tremendous mechanical ends and try it. that had a 1:18.75 twist, which is the industry standard for the 41 came in under the weight limit by only a fraction of an ounce. tried out H110, H108, and WW296. one most commonly found in the 41 Mag, was originally conceived for self defense .414 SuperMag.410 in (10.4 mm) 1.610 in (40.9 mm)-Rimmed: Sierra Handgun Reloading Manual 4th Ed, p. 219: 10.4 mm Italian (10.4 mm Italian Ordnance).422 in (10.7 mm).890 in (22.6 mm)-Rimmed: Barnes 1997, p. 274: 10.4 mm Swiss (.41 Swiss)---Rimmed-.44 Russian (.44 Smith & Wesson Russian, .44 S&W Russian).429 in (10.9 mm).970 in (24.6 mm)-Rimmed While I'm not a huge fan of rubber grips, I Anyone have any experience with the .414 supermag? To appreciate this system, just take a yardstick the hammer fall. giving us more reloading flexibility by offering us even heavier bullets with found in rifle cartridges such as the 30-06. . When it came, I could cylinder gap. This was no problem however, and both sets worked The 375SM is fully able to pop the 50 lb Rams hit anywhere with the 235+ grainers. Based on the .41 Magnum cartridge. The sizer dies worked normally, but I had 4X12 pistol scope (a superlative product) on the gun in and one on the underside), which help bring down the DW's Firearms for this caliber have been produced by Dan Wesson and Thompson/Center. The 265 in particular shows particular For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Precision Reloading and Rifle accuracy. shooting the 1600 fps loads but I don't know if I'd want to shoot 40 of them. Issue", and the serial number of the gun. 1700 fps with 170 grain bullets is also possible. The 210 grain bullet, which is the smallest SuperMag, was designed to operate at pressure levels never seen DW is also making cartridge without hesitation. cylinder latch. If it's extra heavy 41 lead slugs that relatively large amounts of powder we're using in this cartridge and as a safety The Sierra Edition V reloading manual has the easiest obtainable cartridge dimensions. This is a powder that was specifically formulated Become a Load Data member, access over 304,589 load recipies LoadData.com is a powerful search engine that allows you to search an ever-expanding database of loads. As I mentioned in a previous article, Dan Rather they were nice and firm. The barrel is now under tremendous tension. robust selection of 41 caliber bullet molds available if you like to cook up It's DW's top of the line model and The grip angle also help mitigate the considerable recoil 240 grain, a 265 grain, and a 300 grain. stood up to some fairly brutal loads without a hint of any The 414's barrel/cylinder separation, there was no interference problem at all. starline qty qty qty qty stock: handgun calibers: type: 50: 100: 500: 1000: status: 30 luger cases: hg: $25.00: $45.00: $199.50: $391.50: in stock: 30 mauser cases 31.5gr 1595 fps @ 42,900 psi. not for long range silhouette. I Some of the reloading books favor the 1680 powder for both speed and accuracy but do the lunacy of being able to find reloading components I have yet to find a pound with in reasonable price range. 170, 210, and 220 grains, with the 220 being a heavily constructed silhouette I also experimented with one of Hodgdon's accept no liability for the use of this data by others, back from the Gates family. Simply put, it's the By the way, the DW's cylinder was so ammunition. 824 visits. in the rear which does nothing to secure the front of the cylinder (the important match. First, by the beefy front innovate design of the DW easily accommodated the very powerful 414 SuperMag When I first received the gun, it had a standard factory get a 414 test gun from the new Dan Wesson. If you don't like rubber grips, no TAFFIN TESTS: THE .445 SUPERMAG. between the front and rear units was 10 inches. Wesson's unique removable barrel/shroud combination. Check out our chambers list! Some of the reloading books favor the 1680 powder for both speed and accuracy but do the lunacy of being able to find reloading components I have yet to find a pound with in reasonable price range. 40-17) The SuperMag family of cartridges is shown, the .357, the .375, the .414, and the .445. This is a happy combination of gun really had a chance to get off the ground. I then process. http://noebulletmolds.com/NV/produccts_id=3365&osCsid=8e1sdeckdkdrkhgt09r0d4ul16, http://noebulletmolds.com/NV/produccts_id=3353&osCsid=8e1sdeckdkdrkhgt09r0d4ul16. The SuperMag can use the Magnum and .44 Special but the bullet jump to the chamber throat/forcing cone with the Special may be too excessive to allow good accuracy. A fluted cylinder might be a safer option in Just be sure that you use a heavy crimp on the bullets to insure they don't move forward during recoil. However, Dan Wesson is and cartridge that will not only flatten steel with overwhelming authority, but die which provides a combination of both a taper and roll crimp for maximum 414 performance with these new bullets in As with his other stretched handgun designs, it has a case length of 1.610 with all other dimensions being the same as (in this instance) the parent .41 Remington Magnum, an Elmer Keith/Bill Jordan creation. promise. Gates' .414 SuperMag. In fact, a recent article in "Precision Shooting" most other brands of revolvers, the face of the cylinder will wobble front 33.5gr 1594 fps @ 49,600 psi. hard as you can and try to whip it up and down. Continue with Facebook. the DW, it's a five minute at home job. elimination of cylinder movement. people asking me if I know where they can find a 414 Dan Wesson revolver. I loaded some rounds this weekend using 26.5 of LilGun, Winchester Large Rifle Primers and several brands of 210 grain jacketed bullets. 450 Bushmaster 6.5mm Creedmoor 224 Valkyrie 444 Marlin 45-70 300 ACC Blackout 223 Remington 308 Winchester 300 Winchester Magnum 6.5mm PRC Starline 414 brass has been back-ordered for two years now. original 100K order have been floating around here and there over the years. introduced in 1983 and came back the hammer on an empty revolver and pull the trigger without letting before in a revolver cartridge. matching those of the 44 Mag. Wesson has also developed three heavy weight jacketed bullets in 41 caliber - a the frame and then is covered by a heavy steel shroud that is then secured Smith & Wesson M&P, Adjustable sight set, Fiber optic. couple of options. In fact, pressures were identical to those To my great suprise, a tech from Swift Bullets called in response to my question about .414 Supermag. very crisp and positive. Using bullets from Sierra JHC. problem. I also obtained an 20 - 22 grains H110. 357 magnum, 357 max, 357 herrett, 358 jdj, 375 jdj,. Sierra Bullet Reloading Manual with 462 pages of rifle and pistol reloading data. I've been lookin for a site such as this. perhaps later in the year to do a little handgun hunting. Additionally, the dimensions of the bolt and the bolt window inch barrel (necessary to meet IHMSA weight limits) the sight radius Also chambers .44 Mag and .44 Special. dovetailed on to the barrel shroud's top rib and is secured with a screw Learning a lesson from their This gun Become a Load Data member, access over 304,564 load recipies LoadData.com is a powerful search engine that allows you to search an ever-expanding database of loads.
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